ladysophiekitty: (Hermione sad)
ladysophiekitty ([personal profile] ladysophiekitty) wrote2010-12-06 12:08 pm

My thoughts on Ron/Hermione

Most of my flist ships Harry/Hermione, but there are a few of you who ship Ron/Hermione, or don't mind them.

Lately I've been thinking about it, and thinking about book!Ron/Hermione versus movie!Ron/Hermione.

I actually think I prefer movie!Ron/Hermione to book!Ron/Hermione, because there were little things in the books that prevented me from really liking them. The whole "being with other people to make the other person jealous" thing didn't bother me at all, because they were hurt and jealous and wanted to hurt the other person and make them think about what they were missing out on. I don't mind the bickering, either, because these are two kids who like each other, but don't really know how to go about it.

The two main things that bothered me were the birds, and THAT STUPID HOW TO BOOK THAT RON HAD! I mean, seriously. You couldn't figure out how to be in a relationship with Hermione without a self-help book? And Hermione didn't truly start to be in a relationship with Ron until he started taking advice from the book? That kind of makes me mad, actually.

I think THAT'S why I like them in the movies better, because they show the previous stuff without that stupid book and the birds. I loved how they showed Ron as trying to get on Hermione's good side, but not really knowing how to. The moments where Hermione was just so sad that he had left. The awkward moments, when he was like, "let's put this to a vote, shall we? I agree with Hermione!" and he had his hand up, and then slowly dropped it when she was glaring at him. Or how Harry said, "keep talking about that ball of light going through your chest, and she'll forgive you" or, I think the moment that truly stood out to me, that was like, "oh hey! Sexual tension!" was when Ron touched Hermione's face right under her scratch during the cafe scene. Moments like that, I think that I could ship them, even if my heart belongs to Harry/Hermione.

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for not bashing Ron while discussing your ship. I love the trio and one of the reasons I don't like H/Hr and R/Hr is that shippers of the first need to turn Ron into an OOC abusive monster to make their ship work and the second ones are usually into OBHWF, which is just... gah.

As for Oppugno and the "book". These are teenagers, they're not exactly romance savvy and they are ruled by hormones. We all do stupid stuff when we're kids, I didn't mind that so much. I think JKR made a big mistake by having romance be such a huge part of HBP.

I think the movies are more H/Hr than the books, I got tons of Harry/Hermione vibes for POA... but this was not the case in the books. I saw Ron/Hermione coming from GOF and I didn't even think Harry/Hermione was a possibility (then again I thought the same about Harry/Ginny and look how that turned out :P) I thought R/Hr were going to date or something, which would have been fine... then in the Epilogue without any character development for 19 years we find out that everyone married their high-school sweetheart? WAT.

The real world doesn't work that way. Yes, some HS relationships ARE successful but everyone in the Epilogue married their Hogwarts love and that is so unrealistic.

So I guess the lesson is... KIDS, IF YOU DON'T FIND TRU WUB BY AGE SEVENTEEN YOU ARE DOOMED!

Anyway, I'll just leave this here:



OT3 forever ^^

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
it amuses me because all the r/hr shippers think the movies are more h/hr than the books and i, at least, think the movies are more r/hr than the books because i didn't even see r/hr in the books. so i think the perspectives are really interesting. i mean, perspective shapes your entire reading of this 'verse, especially with shipping, but i think that produces some interesting results in the way this fandom views the films.

i'm interested in seeing how the r/hr fandom at large feelings about the epilogue, because i've seen a lot of shippers who are like 'otp forever' but i've also seen a lot of 'i love them but i can't imagine them together forever and ever amen' and i would have been okay with that, actually, but i have a million problems with the epilogue from a ship and non-ship perspective so i am the most biased human. :D
Edited 2010-12-06 23:18 (UTC)

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a Ron/Hermione shipper. I don't do trio-shipping.

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
oh! sorry, i misunderstood your comment then. :)

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It's okay. I was kind of miffed that you were assuming I was one because I didn't see H/Hr in the books.

Actually, that statement is wrong... I ship Trio Friendship. That is trio shipping, hehe. I just don't care if they are romantic with each other.

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
hahaha well i actually got it from I saw Ron/Hermione coming from GOF. but i'm sorry to have been a bother. :) and trio friendship is a totally legit life choice.

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No worries. tbh after HBP, DH and all the shipwars I've become sort of paranoid in this fandom. Being a Gen person can be awkward sometimes. So sorry if I was kind of aggressive :P

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
i think after the ship wars we're all become sort of paranoid in this fandom, ngl. i think paranoid parrot it the mascot of the h/hr fandom at the very least. womp. :)

[identity profile] ladysophiekitty.livejournal.com 2010-12-07 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there have been a few fandoms where I didn't actually ship anyone but I wasn't necessarily active in those fandoms, and they weren't HUGE like HP is. So I can't imagine what it must have been like, but I'm sure there were times when it wasn't pretty.

Also? I need more Harry Potter icons. Will go looking for them now!

[identity profile] ladysophiekitty.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, where Ron/Hermione is concerned, it's BOTH of them hurting each other, but in kind an innocent way for the most part (minus the birds, which Hermione did, not Ron) more like, "I don't know how to show you that I like you". So no, I don't see Ron as an abuser.

In the first Harry and Hermione story I wrote, I think one of the good things about the story (and I was 11 at the time so the story sucked) was how I portrayed Ron's reaction to them being in a relationship. He was like, "What?" and was kind of annoyed at first because hello, is it going to be awkward for him? How is that going to affect their relationship with each other? Then he was OK with it. But it's hard to find fic where the Weasleys aren't bashed so much or where Ron isn't a huge dick who used spells to get Hermione to like him. That makes me MAD because Ron IS a good guy who sometimes get things wrong. I think that in the books, he liked Hermione, and Hermione liked him, but I just never saw it working out as a long term relationship. Because, like you said, who you're with in HS isn't always who you're with for the rest of your life.

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-06 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Ron is sort of clueless about relationships in general so I guess that his reaction would be along the lines of "What?" :P Also, I think he would be apprehensive about it at first.

What I hate is the endless Ron beats Hermione so she has to find comfort in Harry's arms fics, WTF is up with those? First off, it's a discredit to Hermione to assume she'd stay in an abusive relationship, and same to Harry who has to be aware of that and yet says/does nothing. Then we have abusive!Ron, which is so many kinds of OOC.

I think it would have been more relalistic if the Epilogue had been longer and explained things. If JKR was set in making Ron/Hermione happen, then she needed to make it believable past a High School romance. Same goes for Harry/Hermione, Harry/Ginny and any other Hogwarts based pairing. A relationship takes work, it will get ugly at points, and it won't always work out. I'm not saying they didn't stand a chance, but it's so WEIRD that she had everyone from Harry's year hook up with each other. If so, move over Match.com... Hogwarts is where it's at!

[identity profile] avidbeader.livejournal.com 2010-12-07 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
That is a seriously funny icon. Just had to say.

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-07 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! The quote is from Rifftrax.com's commentary on GOF.

[identity profile] dtotheaisy.livejournal.com 2010-12-07 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that may be due to the fact that there only seems to be one wizard school in the whole of England. I never really got that. Like every English wizard ever went to Hogwarts? So no matter who you end up with... they're going to be someone who went to Hogwarts. Idk it kind of makes me laugh and weirds me out.

[identity profile] nani1986.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with marrying a muggle? Or someone older than you? Or someone from Beauxbatons or Durmstrang?

My problem with that is that it only applies to the kids of Harry's year. They all married each other.

What's wrong with marrying a muggle (Ted and Andromeda)? Or someone older than you (Lupin and Tonks)? Or someone from Beauxbatons or Durmstrang (Bill/Fleur)?

[identity profile] dtotheaisy.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah I kind of forgot about all that, whoops :|

[identity profile] dtotheaisy.livejournal.com 2010-12-07 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry to creep, but YOUR ICON :D