My thoughts on Ron/Hermione

[ladysophiekitty]

Most of my flist ships Harry/Hermione, but there are a few of you who ship Ron/Hermione, or don't mind them.

Lately I've been thinking about it, and thinking about book!Ron/Hermione versus movie!Ron/Hermione.

I actually think I prefer movie!Ron/Hermione to book!Ron/Hermione, because there were little things in the books that prevented me from really liking them. The whole "being with other people to make the other person jealous" thing didn't bother me at all, because they were hurt and jealous and wanted to hurt the other person and make them think about what they were missing out on. I don't mind the bickering, either, because these are two kids who like each other, but don't really know how to go about it.

The two main things that bothered me were the birds, and THAT STUPID HOW TO BOOK THAT RON HAD! I mean, seriously. You couldn't figure out how to be in a relationship with Hermione without a self-help book? And Hermione didn't truly start to be in a relationship with Ron until he started taking advice from the book? That kind of makes me mad, actually.

I think THAT'S why I like them in the movies better, because they show the previous stuff without that stupid book and the birds. I loved how they showed Ron as trying to get on Hermione's good side, but not really knowing how to. The moments where Hermione was just so sad that he had left. The awkward moments, when he was like, "let's put this to a vote, shall we? I agree with Hermione!" and he had his hand up, and then slowly dropped it when she was glaring at him. Or how Harry said, "keep talking about that ball of light going through your chest, and she'll forgive you" or, I think the moment that truly stood out to me, that was like, "oh hey! Sexual tension!" was when Ron touched Hermione's face right under her scratch during the cafe scene. Moments like that, I think that I could ship them, even if my heart belongs to Harry/Hermione.

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[dtotheaisy.livejournal.com]

So this may seem really random that I'm commenting here because I haven't been on LJ in months. That would be because I usually use tumblr BUT IT HAS BEEN DOWN ALL DAY and I just lurked back here to have some kind of contact with fandom people. Anyway, I'm lobster-quadrille1 on tumblr in case you're confused, I can't remember if you follow me but anyway I'm pretty sure I follow you. So yeah.

Anyway this is an interesting perspective! I like seeing the ways other people interpret the text and it's much more intelligent when people make comments like this rather than just DIE BITCH MY SHIP IS BETTER.
Yeah, the birds thing is kind of bad. That's one of the only times Hermione ever did anything that made me feel annoyed by her, because come on. However, I feel like it was in her nature? She often acts irrationally crazy when she's upset. I can't think of another example that extreme but she sort of reminds me of my own friend who can become rather... crazed, at times :P

As for that book, I barely noticed it, tbh. I just assumed it was a silly present Fred or George or someone gave Ron, and him being his clueless self he sort of took it a bit too seriously. I don't think most of the things he does for Hermione are the influence of the book, however. There's that one time he compliments her and Harry thinks it was due to the book, but he really undergoes some massive character developement in Deathly Hallows and by the end I feel he has outgrown anything like that. Their eventual hookup is a result of Ron being totally selfless like the man he has become. At least, that's how I see it.

As for Harry and Hermione - well, I sort of see Hermione as a bit of a mother figure to Harry. Epic love between them, though <3 (ps though, one of the other few times Hermione pisses me off - when she gets all annoyed about that sign in Godric's Hollow - I feel she should have got that Harry would have loved people writing all over it. It's stuff like that which makes me personally think they don't have that deeper understanding of one another. But I still love their friendship!)

OMG THIS COMMENT IS LONG, I AM SO TUMBLR DEPRIVED

[ladysophiekitty.livejournal.com]

Poor you! Yeah, I hear that Tumblr is still at war with 4chan? I'm a casual Tumblr user, so it doesn't bother me much (and, btw, I do follow you there)

As for the book, hmmm. I've found it interesting because most of the Harry/Hermione people I've talked to were bothered by it, whereas most of the Ron/Hermione people thought it didn't have much of an impact on the actual relationship. Not a judgment there, just something I've kind of noticed. Actually, I've been thinking of rereading the 7th book again (not for shipping, because most of my problems with it had NOTHING to do with shipping) so I'll keep an eye out for that and see what I notice.

As for Harry/Hermione, well, I think that their relationship is beautiful, whether it's seen in a romantic light or not. I think in my head I don't really want any of them to end up with any of them after Hogwarts, because it's kind of like there's a different sort of relationship when two of your friends are married to each other and you're married to someone else. Like, I just kind of want them to stay at Hogwarts and not have it change their friendship dynamics! Which is why reading fics is fine, but in canon, I wish the epilogue hadn't happened.

[dtotheaisy.livejournal.com]

I don't think we're at 'war' with 4chan anymore, or at least not that I've heard :P
I think I have a bit of a tumblr problem, tbh.

Yeah I just think that the book was a product of Ron's insecurity; he probably thought he could only be good enough for Hermy if he followed its advice, but he soon mans up when he literally conquers those insecurities with the horcrux stabbing. I think it makes sense for his character. Not gonna deny that I'm biased, though :P

I sort of know what you mean, it does change the dynamic (a lot of people ship OT3), but I wasn't particularly bothered by the epilogue. I don't have any strong feelings about it either way.