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ladysophiekitty) wrote2010-12-06 12:08 pm
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My thoughts on Ron/Hermione
Most of my flist ships Harry/Hermione, but there are a few of you who ship Ron/Hermione, or don't mind them.
Lately I've been thinking about it, and thinking about book!Ron/Hermione versus movie!Ron/Hermione.
I actually think I prefer movie!Ron/Hermione to book!Ron/Hermione, because there were little things in the books that prevented me from really liking them. The whole "being with other people to make the other person jealous" thing didn't bother me at all, because they were hurt and jealous and wanted to hurt the other person and make them think about what they were missing out on. I don't mind the bickering, either, because these are two kids who like each other, but don't really know how to go about it.
The two main things that bothered me were the birds, and THAT STUPID HOW TO BOOK THAT RON HAD! I mean, seriously. You couldn't figure out how to be in a relationship with Hermione without a self-help book? And Hermione didn't truly start to be in a relationship with Ron until he started taking advice from the book? That kind of makes me mad, actually.
I think THAT'S why I like them in the movies better, because they show the previous stuff without that stupid book and the birds. I loved how they showed Ron as trying to get on Hermione's good side, but not really knowing how to. The moments where Hermione was just so sad that he had left. The awkward moments, when he was like, "let's put this to a vote, shall we? I agree with Hermione!" and he had his hand up, and then slowly dropped it when she was glaring at him. Or how Harry said, "keep talking about that ball of light going through your chest, and she'll forgive you" or, I think the moment that truly stood out to me, that was like, "oh hey! Sexual tension!" was when Ron touched Hermione's face right under her scratch during the cafe scene. Moments like that, I think that I could ship them, even if my heart belongs to Harry/Hermione.
Lately I've been thinking about it, and thinking about book!Ron/Hermione versus movie!Ron/Hermione.
I actually think I prefer movie!Ron/Hermione to book!Ron/Hermione, because there were little things in the books that prevented me from really liking them. The whole "being with other people to make the other person jealous" thing didn't bother me at all, because they were hurt and jealous and wanted to hurt the other person and make them think about what they were missing out on. I don't mind the bickering, either, because these are two kids who like each other, but don't really know how to go about it.
The two main things that bothered me were the birds, and THAT STUPID HOW TO BOOK THAT RON HAD! I mean, seriously. You couldn't figure out how to be in a relationship with Hermione without a self-help book? And Hermione didn't truly start to be in a relationship with Ron until he started taking advice from the book? That kind of makes me mad, actually.
I think THAT'S why I like them in the movies better, because they show the previous stuff without that stupid book and the birds. I loved how they showed Ron as trying to get on Hermione's good side, but not really knowing how to. The moments where Hermione was just so sad that he had left. The awkward moments, when he was like, "let's put this to a vote, shall we? I agree with Hermione!" and he had his hand up, and then slowly dropped it when she was glaring at him. Or how Harry said, "keep talking about that ball of light going through your chest, and she'll forgive you" or, I think the moment that truly stood out to me, that was like, "oh hey! Sexual tension!" was when Ron touched Hermione's face right under her scratch during the cafe scene. Moments like that, I think that I could ship them, even if my heart belongs to Harry/Hermione.
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You said you had a problem with the birds, but yet you said you were okay with the fact that they used other people to make each other jealous. The birds were an act of jealousy. Which, given how callous Ron was acting, kind of makes sense. It isn't completely justified, of course, and it was definitely irrational, but Ron's always managed to bring out Hermione's irrational side. She Confunded McLaggen for Ron, after all.
And in terms of the book, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we only really see that book when Ron gave it to Harry? And granted, he complimented Hermione like the book said - that's what lame teenage boys do. And in the real world, teenage girls buy magazines like Cosmo Girl and Seventeen to get advice for how to get boys to like them. It's silly and people should be able to be themselves and get dates that way, but in general, that isn't how society works. If Harry and Ginny had been together more in Deathly Hallows, what's to say that Harry wouldn't have tried stuff from the book as well? But really, the main reason Hermione actually went for it with Ron was because he wanted to save the house elves. And that was his decision - that wasn't something she'd asked him to do, and it wasn't something the book suggested, either. That was character growth on Ron's part, and that impressed Hermione. But she liked him for ages, all the way back to book 4, arguably, long before this book ever came into their lives. And I bet she would have agreed to date him then, too, if they'd managed to get over their awkward issues and do things like grownups. But hey, that's teenagers for you.
I'm not trying to make you change your mind, by any means! Just trying to explain things from my perspective. After all, it's all about how you interpret things, right? And everyone's allowed to interpret motivations however they want. :)
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I guess the difference between the birds for me was that it was a physical act of violence against one another versus just trying to make each other jealous. Like, both of them are not OK, but I understand the first part. It's just when it starts to get physical that I'm like, "No way!" I think I was 11 or 12 when the sixth book came out, so while beforehand I had been aware of the relationships, I didn't actively ship. In fact, that was also around the time I became involved with fandom, and I became more of a Harry/Hermione shipper due to fandom rather than any of the books or movies. It wasn't until later when I reread and rewatched things that I realized that yeah, I do like Harry/Hermione.
I just remember getting that impression about the book, too, that he used it and that's what really got them to get together. Again, it's been 2 years since I've read the book, but that's what I thought. But then, I might have just been getting the wrong impression, because I don't like the way JKR writes romance. I think that if she had written Harry/Hermione together in canon instead, I probably wouldn't have liked that either.
And don't apologize! It's interesting to see other shipper's POV, especially when we aren't going to be all "BITCH! YOU SHIP RHR/HHR YOU HAVE NO TASTE DIDN'T YOU REALLY READ THE BOOKS?"